Dear All
External Affairs Secretary Fiona Hyslop was
previously bumped from the education brief.
Apparently teachers and others got so
annoyed by her poor judgment that Alex Salmond had to shift her.
Now, she is the External Affairs Secretary.
Hyslop boldly declares that the Scottish
Secretary Alistair Carmichael is "insulting the people of Scotland."
Is that anything like the insulting done
the SNP over their phoney independence campaign?
Or vote rigging at election carried out by
some members to rig candidacies?
Or committing election fraud?
Ms. Hyslop also says that European Union
leaders are "scaremongering" by insisting an independent Scotland
would be ejected from the EU.
I am pretty sure that they are saying that
if Scotland leaves the UK, they retain membership if they leave, that isn’t
ejection; that is contract law dear!
Don’t have a contract, don’t have a
membership, you don’t have a case.
And as a qualified lawyer, she must know
she is talking out of her arse!
Alistair Carmichael said EU citizenship can
be revoked from Scots if they leave the UK.
That is a point worth debating, Scotland as
a nation wouldn’t be a member, but people holding British passports born in
Scotland, and living in England probably would have continual EU rights.
It is important to separate ‘people’ from
the ‘nation’ state.
So, if Scotland’s ‘jolly fat man’ Alex
Salmond was to stand on his EU rights, he personally may have a case for his
personal situation, but rights associated with Scotland won’t exist. If he was
recognized as an EU citizen due to a British passport, it won’t matter a jot in
talks regarding Scotland’s membership.
When Scotland leaves the UK, it leaves the
EU.
Carmichael cited Austrian fraudster Janko
Rottmann who had his EU repealed after it was found to have been obtained by
deception.
Interesting not like for like, although the
common thread is law.
European Commission president Jose Manuel
Barroso has said it would be "difficult, if not impossible" for
Scotland to join the EU some time ago.
Why?
Internal domestic politics in countries
like Spain who have a large Nationalist movement, they would wish to defend
their own internal situation first, so I suspect they won’t be giving Scotland
a yes vote!
European Council chief Herman Van Rompuy
said if a "part of a territory becomes a new independent state, EU
treaties will no longer apply to that territory".
What he said is the real point, when East
Germany joined West Germany and became a united country; this was firstly a
matter of internal German politics. That being the case, East Germans by virtue
found themselves EU members by default.
It seems that when law is explained to the
SNP leadership, they despite having a Cabinet full of qualified lawyers just
ignore what they are told.
The SNP previously spun the lies of
automatic membership and no negotiations needed.
Both of these lies were peddled by the
leadership of Alex Salmond and unpopular Nicola Sturgeon.
The EU leaders' position was also echoed by
EC vice-president Viviane Reding in a recent letter to Holyrood's European and
External Relations Committee.
Given these people run the EU, and they
make the decisions which others base their views on on while making decisions,
the SNP won’t be getting any help, anytime soon.
Speaking at a Holyrood Committee, Hyslop
said it was "inappropriate" to compare Scots to a criminal.
Carmichael although also qualified as a
lawyer, his example is a poor choice, that being said, on the wider points
which he struggled to get out he has a point.
Hyslop take that the EU leaders "have
made political comments for political reasons", and insisted Scotland is
"not a territory of Great Britain" is equally flawed. She has proof
that EU leaders "have made political comments for political reasons?"
Well No, not a shred, it is assumption yet
again presented as a fact.
Her pitch on why she is right, is to cling
to comments of former European Court judge Sir David Edward.
He said it would be "absurd" to
deprive Scots of their EU citizenship, I take his hook is the British passport
which to base his claims on, however, Scotland as a Nation wouldn’t be a member.
To be blunt even if everyone in Scotland
held a British passport that still wouldn’t matter as the issue of contract law
cannot be sidestepped around.
That is why the SNP want a change in the
treaty.
That option using article 48 isn’t going to
fly, all new members must use article 49.
Committee convener Christina McKelvie is
putting the SNP line to seek confirmation that member states would decide
whether Scotland can continue in the EU through a treaty amendment under
article 48 of the Lisbon Treaty.
Never happen.
Ms Hyslop says Reding's response, which
made no mention of article 48 but outlined the usual EU accession route under
article 49, "was not about Scotland in particular".
That doesn’t support the SNP’s case at all,
in fact not speaking about something doesn’t assist the SNP advance their
argument.
It is a bit like a murderer saying, ‘well
no one ever told me that I couldn’t kill people’!
Assumption is as they say the mother of all
fuck ups!
On the issue of being truly independent
Hyslop said: that the SNP have ruled out giving Scots a vote on leaving the EU,
stating:
"Why on Earth would we have a
referendum on something that we don't agree with?"
It seems that democracy isn’t to the SNP‘s
taste, also worth pointing out that Westminster gave Scotland its referendum
despite that being something they don’t agree with.
Some people have higher standards than
others.
With Scotland looking like it will not be a
EU member, Unionists have suggested Scotland would have to set up border posts
with England.
Border posts!
Not an EU country, border posts would go up,
and if England sticks up posts, Scotland has to stick up posts.
Hyslop said:
"Alistair Carmichael came to this
committee and used in evidence of the citizenship argument a case of deception.
I don't think five million citizens of the EU in Scotland should be considered
in any way shape or form in the same area. Not only was it inappropriate, it
was quite insulting to the people of Scotland that the Secretary of State for
Scotland came to this committee and used in evidence a case that was dealt with
on the basis of the individual's criminality."
His badly worded point is that people can have
their EU membership removed; his choice as I said is poor.
She added:
"Those that have sought to portray the
route to membership as 'difficult, if not impossible' have been shown to be
scaremongering”.
Why, because Edwards made a technical
point, his point doesn’t stretch to Scotland as a Nation but I would contend
focuses solely on the individual with a British passport.
Hyslop added:
"Both Mr Barroso and Mr Rompuy have
made political comments for political reasons. I don't think it is the role of
president of the EC to reflect on the internal workings of any member state. The
EC has not taken a view on Scotland because they have not been presented with a
view on Scotland. The correspondence you have received (from Ms Reding) and the
comments have been made in general, not about Scotland in particular and our
particular circumstances. Therefore I don't think you can read into this
assumption of what is required by article 49 to apply to Scotland. Her letter
talks about 'when part of a territory of a member state ceases to be part of
that state'. We are not part of the territory - we are actually part of the
union that established Great Britain in the first place. That is a different
context."
Why does that mean?
In its purest form she is talking out her
arse, and stretching a point to cover something which is a form of word
juggling, the use of the word ‘territory’, we are not a ‘territory’ so the
rules don’t apply to us!
That hasn't a leg to stand on!
Conservative MSP Jamie McGrigor asked if
Scots would get a referendum on the EU after the Scottish independence vote.
Hyslop said:
"We as an SNP Government do not want
to have a referendum on the EU. We don't think it's required because we believe
that Scotland's best interests are served by having continued membership. Why
on Earth would we have a referendum on something that we don't agree
with?"
Mr McGrigor said:
"David Cameron obviously believes that
giving people a choice is important."
A rather obvious putdown, one thing is
certain, if you don’t have a contract between the Scottish Government and the
EU, Scotland isn’t a member state, all that flow with it such as EU law,
grants, and trade are affected, this doesn’t happen at present because Scotland
is part of the UK, and by default automatically is part of the EU.
But the contract between Scotland and
England, the Treaty of Union of 1707 must remain intact.
If that is broken, everything falls down,
the Scottish National Party hasn’t done the work and oh how painfully it shows.
Scotland would face being shut out of the
EU for some considerable time rather like Charles De Gaulle shut Britain out of
the Common Market.
The Scottish National Party aren’t offering
Scots independence, they are the ones that are insulting Scots!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow
University
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