Dear All
Daniel Hannan is a Conservative MEP at the European
Parliament; he has done an article on Human Rights for the CAPX website.
So, let’s crack on regarding his pro scrapping of the Human
Rights Act 1998 article and make some observations on his comments.
“What specific benefits accrue to the United Kingdom
as a result of our adherence to the European Convention on Human Rights? That
question ought to be our starting point, but it is almost never asked”.
Why should a Convention of Human Rights designed for the ‘benefit’
of citizens have included provisions to ‘buy off’ the member state?
I am asking him that question because I think that is
important, does he think justice should be bought?
Daniel also writes:
“Were there habitual violations of civil freedoms before
1953 when the Convention entered into force? Were we deporting whole
populations, expropriating our citizens without due process, throwing
dissidents into internment camps? No? Then what is it we’re supposed to have
gained?”
To the first part, Ireland
seems to be a good example of habitual violations of civil freedoms before
1953, other areas of British controlled jurisdiction like South Africa had concentration camps and then
there was India .
So domestically as well as internationally there is a history to be accounted
for.
I am sure there is a Monty Python sketch in there somewhere
along the lines of Life of Brian, ‘whose had their rights violated’, followed
by many people reeling off names.
I am a big fan of the Human Rights Act 1998, and also the
European Convention on Human Rights. The Conservatives wish to scrap the Human
Rights Act and replace it with a British Bill of Rights.
So, does the British Bill of Rights give us more rights,
less rights or no change?
If the Bill gives us more rights, then surely the current
Act could simply be amended, if it gives less rights or protection, why would
anyone support it, or if it makes no difference who would support that either.
I think that many people must be of the conclusion that the
British Bill of Rights gives people less protection. The Human Rights Act has a
problem, that problem is some of the judgments have been perverse.
Incidentally Daniel isn’t calling for the removal of bad
Judges because as part of the ‘establishment’, you don’t attack other members
of the establishment. But removing poor people’s rights is another matter,
that’s fair game.
And it is especially funny to couch it in terms of ‘standing
up for Britain’.
I would say that in his argument Daniel has been quite
clever, he invites people early on to believe that things were ‘okay’ in the
past, so effectively take his word for it and continue reading, gloss over
doing any research and buy into the concept, bad Human Rights Act.
Recently Conservative MP Charles Walker said something in
the House of Commons:
“I would rather be an honourable fool, than a clever man”.
This is because William Hague, a former UK Government Minister
tried to introduce measures behind Mr. Walker’s back to oust the current
Speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow.
It was a nasty shoddy trick unworthy of William Hague and
certainly of a Government Minister because we expect better.
The footage is available online for those who wish to view
it.
Bearing this in mind, Daniel Hannan stated:
“A couple of weeks ago, I wrote an article in the
Spectator backing the government’s policy of ensuring that, in the event of a
conflict of jurisdiction, Parliament, rather than the Strasbourg Court, would
have the final word”.
This is the nub of the matter; would you rather trust a Judge
or an MP to uphold your rights?
I would say that most people would lean towards a Judge.
At present Amnesty International is campaigning against the
scrapping of the Human Rights Act. They effectively seen as the establishment’s
opposition but the reality, Amnesty International isn’t really for the people.
The ones that run it are all connected to the same social circles as the people
in power.
A conversation is ‘taking place’ but the public are excluded
except of course when invited to agree with a ‘done deal’.
I have no respect for Amnesty International.
Daniel does point out that “a government cannot give human
rights or take them away”, however, he then later goes onto talk about prisoner
voting rights. A government cannot give human rights or take them away but they
can ignore them for political purposes. Prisoners don’t get the vote, not for a
legal reason but for political reasons of attempting to hold onto power.
If you can’t trust the government to uphold the law who can
you trust?
“Britain
is a law-based liberal democracy”.
In fact we are so ‘liberal’ we break the law, but that’s
okay, also to cast back into history, why in a law-based liberal democracy did
torture take place on UK
soil?
During the IRA bomb campaign on mainland Britain ,
innocent people were convicted, and tortured to confess. In any organisation
there are bad people, but as people fought for the truth on behalf of the
innocent, the establishment closed ranks to cover that up.
“Britain
is a law-based liberal democracy”.
The Shirley Mackie case in Scotland , it took 9 years for
Shirley Mackie to get justice, again, another cover up by the establishment.
Individual cases which Daniel Hannan would simply dismiss and probably write
off as ‘one offs’, but everyone who is abused and mistreated is an individual
case.
In Human Rights, a single person in the right has more
credibility than 50, 100, 200, a million in the wrong.
When Daniel says:
“in the event of a conflict of jurisdiction, Parliament,
rather than the Strasbourg Court ,
would have the final word”.
During the Westminster expenses scandal which hit the public
domain circa 2008, a few MPs and Peers were tossed to the wolves to ‘buy off’
the public that something had been done, how many people not just lost faith
but trust entirely in politicians?
I would venture a lot.
Politics is still in disrepute, the SNP has 56 MPs at Westminster , not the
greatest thinkers, not fountains of knowledge or wisdom.
Does Daniel Hannan trust their judgment?
I have to say, he later on added a bit of comedy when he wrote:
“As I expected, the most common response to my column was
the babyish one which even a surprising number of barristers adopt on this
subject: “Why do you Tories have a problem with basic human rights?”
Not all Tories do have a problem with human rights, but I
would imagine the obvious answer is two fold, firstly they are the power elite
who work hand in glove with big business, and secondly they are rich. They can
easily go to Court if their rights are abused because they can afford it; it is
an entirely different matter for poor people who have seen access to justice
restricted.
In the main, the real problem with the Human Rights Act 1998
is that politicians who Daniel Hannan seems to rely on to provide ‘best
judgment’ allowed the Act to be vague and rather loose. Incidentally, there are
many lawyers who have become MPs, and given the loopholes in tax avoidance etc
exploited by other lawyers, maybe parties should ban lawyer MPs having any
input in drafting legislation.
This won’t happen.
“All rights by definition apply to humans, since – unlike
oysters or grasshoppers – we are legal persons, able to enter into relations
with other persons mediated by the law”.
If you take that at face value then:
“What specific benefits accrue to the United Kingdom
as a result of our adherence to the European Convention on Human Rights?”
Isn’t a serious question!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
3 comments:
I have no problem with the convention on human rights etc George, or the Act of 1988 . I do have a problem with some of the people who manage to stay in this country after claiming their rights are being violated. Human rights law is a nice earner for certain sections of the legal profession.
Hey George, i've just been reading about Nicola Sturgeon's taxpayer funded jolly to America. She's due to appear on the Daily Show hosted by Jon Stewart, but there's been a mix up over who Sturgeon actually is. She's been billed as being "A COMEDIAN",, honestly, look it up. The truth is, she IS a fucking comedian, a whinging, lying comedian funded by the taxpayer.
Hi Sherbie
You are are right, she is a comedian but not funny.
The joke she uses as a one trick pony is to con people.
George
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